minutes. >> in the... to miss herrick's comment now that there are other codes that may be involved, curiously, and more curiously, none of those have been mentioned to date. it sounds much like the markarini case in which you first rejected out-right, all six of the amended charges against him and then you made up a hybrid charge right before, august, 19th hearing concluded. mr. markarini had all but a minute and a half to realize that he had a new charge against him and now what miss herrick is indicating is that some other citation, which is never previously been provided to me is now being used? >> pretty sure... >> it is on page 4, of 17 of her memo.